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Published 2/7/2013 in Local News : Police
By ANGIE HAFLICHahaflich@gctelegram.com
Garden City police have arrested four teens in connection with the Menards vandalism incident that took place over the weekend.
Bryan Rios, 14, 601 Conkling Ave., Malichai Trey King, 17, 309 W. Olive St., and two 13-year-old Garden City boys were arrested between 10:54 p.m. Tuesday and 2:52 a.m. Wednesday on allegations of burglary, felony criminal damage to property, arson and conspiracy.
On Tuesday, the Garden City Police Department received tips from two people providing information on who was involved in the incident. Officers were contacted by one person with information and a second person contacted Crime Stoppers.
It is alleged the four boys were riding bicycles around Garden City when they ended up at Menards. The boys allegedly rode their bicycles through the inside of the store for a period of time before deciding to use a forklift to spill the paint and cause other damage inside the building.
According to the Garden City Police Department, officers responded to Menards, 1110 Lareu Road, at about 8:58 a.m. Sunday in response to a report about damage at the property.
The initial investigation determined the suspects entered the business through an unlocked door between 7:30 p.m. Saturday and 8 a.m. Sunday. According to police, the suspect used two forklifts to spill 86 five-gallon and 11 one-gallon containers of industrial paint throughout the store, damaging about 25,000 square feet of concrete flooring.
According to police, internal furnishings, including overhead lights, also were damaged, and the suspects also lit cardboard boxes on fire inside the building.
Wayne Frasier, superintendent of McConnell Excavating, Oberlin, Ohio, said that concrete crews discovered the damage and that while the doors were unlocked, it appeared that the suspects pushed open a locked door that was off its hinges.
In addition to the previously described damage, two support beams for the roof have been found damaged by the forklifts and may have to be replaced. One of the forklifts used by the suspects also sustained damage to one of its forks and its cage. Contractors are still in the process of determining whether the paint can be removed from the concrete and the total amount of loss is undetermined at this point, but could range between $30,000 and $300,000.
Frasier said they won't have an exact damage estimate until the estimator and structural engineer perform inspections.
Frasier said that his company's portion of the job was supposed to be completed Feb. 15, and if the columns and concrete have to be replaced, extra manpower and extra hours will be required in order to stay on schedule.
The four boys are being lodged in the Kansas Juvenile Detention Center.
Found 36 comment(s)!
Menards
Why are you guys all hating? @UNBELIVABLE there is hardly any gangs in garden. It also happened over a weekend, so they could've had a sleep over and this occurred. I also don't understand why the parents need to pay. Why can't the kids pay a fine until it gets paid off. I used to have classes with the 13 year olds. I've met their parents. Mine are friends with one parent and knows she disciplines her kid. So why is it always when one teen messes up all of a sudden every teen will? Lots of kids do great things for this community so don't be hating.
Posted by: A teen on 2/19/2013
You are right
Some of you are right I was just stirring things up. I dont believe the kids should get off scott free. They should have to pay for there screw ups. I dont belive that putting them into a detention house is the answer. The only ones who learn anything there is the city county or state and it is how to collect the money. The government has taken all of the rights away from the parents. How can you discipline a child when there is a chance you will go to jail. I have noticed that most kids wont pay attention raising my kids that thing that follows them around is an attention getter. Smack it one time and you have there attention This is not abuse. I am sure the parents are embarressed or should be so how about putting the kids in pretty pink jump suites and letting them do some community service down on main or up at the new high school. Well thanks its nice to know people are still interested in what goes on in this town
Posted by: Bleeding Heart on 2/11/2013
WOW
Are you people serious? I personally know one of these children. He does have good parents. They do watch him. Can you honestly tell me that you NEVER lied to your parents? Nobody is perfect. Look at everything you have done before you judge others. Also, there was a girl involved but she isn't mentioned... she didn't run to the cops when it started happening or even afterwards. Why isn't she being charged with anything? Get your facts straight.
Posted by: truth on 2/9/2013
Bleeding heart is an obvious provocateur
Come on folks, you're being duped. A real 'liberal' who would write something as incendiary as 'bleeding heart' wouldn't sign it that way. It's an obvious incitement to try and rile people up (probably posted by someone who is anything but a 'bleeding heart.') And it looks like it worked pretty well.
For the record, I'm about as progressive as they come. And I think the 17-year-old should be tried as an adult, the juveniles should get as hefty a punishment as allowed by the law, and the parents should be held financially responsible for the consequences of their moronic offspring. I think that's something we can all agree on from both the left and right side of the political spectrum.
Posted by: ricardo on 2/9/2013
Bleeding Heart
...got your attention...how you react, says volumes!
Posted by: Rl on 2/9/2013
Another response to...
---->Sam
Really?! Mercenary Justice? Lynch mob? What day and age do YOU live in my friend!?
----->2ndAmendment
Please, kids these days? What, were you born in the 1800's? And where do you live? Listen people, kids these days are gonna ACT differently than you because this is a different day and age. You wanna help, teach your children the right and wrong way to act and behave! If they make a mistake then they will suffer the consequences like the children in this article! While EVERYONE has a right to their opinion (According to the first amendment god bless it!) I don't believe a harsher punishment than one that's already gonna be placed on them is going to make any difference! Also, while criticizing the parents of these children might seem NEEDED to some of you opinionated people, you have to imagine what they are going through! Having to pay for their childrens mistakes because they are not adults yet, and im sure they feel bad because who WANTS thier kids to be in trouble for something like this!? No one WANTS thier kids to grow up like this! And every parent tries hard to teach thier childrn the right way and the wrong way and hopes to god they choose the right path!! Remember Matthew 7: 1-5 “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye."
Posted by: Dexter M on 2/9/2013
Judgement? Really?
Come on! How many of you have gone out and volunteered in the community to see these kids up close? Don't just sit in front of your computer and vent your anger, do something! Help some kid out; be a mentor! Be a Pack leader! Big Brother/Sister! Troop Leader! Our children need help! If you are such a good parent go out and teach a kid who has never seen "good" parenting skills what it is like! Otherwise you are also part of the problem. I am in total agreement that we need to know where our kids are and have family dinners and attend church, but what about the families who can't do those things? Work two jobs? Family illness? I do not know how anyone can sit in judgement. And we wonder why children are turning out like they are? I certainly do not claim to have the answers, but this kind of anger being posted is certainly not the answer. And, no I am not the parent of one of these children! I feel for them though! Especially if they have read these comments. Instead of bashing this community and it's kids do something about it. Get involved.
Posted by: Mom of teen on 2/8/2013
thanks bleeding heart
Thank you, bleeding heart. I have thoroughly enjoyed the reactions you provoked by your simple three line commentary. Your parity of the liberal position was pointed (as are all good parities). The really scary thing is that your satirical comments actually reflect the opinions of some. Nevertheless, the outrage has been fun to read. Thank you again for some much needed entertainment.
Posted by: Rachael on 2/8/2013
Don't Blame the Parents
To all of you blaming the parents, you probably don't know that the parent's of one of these teens is the one who TURNED THEM IN. Parent's of teenagers can't be with them at all times. We need to hold the kids responsible for their own actions. They are old enough to no better and why not have a little understanding for the parent's instead of blaming them? Oh yeah, I forgot everyone else has perfect children.
Posted by: wildcat on 2/8/2013
Bleeding Heart
People, calm down. I think Bleeding Heart is being facetious....
Posted by: Not bleeding heart. on 2/8/2013
Bleeding Heart
Is a troll, no one can actually think that way. Or is a parent/relative of the vandals.
Posted by: Sigh on 2/8/2013
Not their fault?!?!?
Bleeding Heart must be a parent of one of the vandals!!! How can you say it was not their fault? They made the choice. Menard's did not tell them to do it. I suppose it was not the parents fault either. Not their fault that they did not know what the kids were doing, where the kids were at. I do not live in GC. If I did, I think with all of the "gang" activity, I would know where my influential 14 year old son was on a Saturday night. Wait, in my small town, I know where my 14 year old son is. Most of the time at home or with the family at the movies, or eating dinner, or bowling. I know if he is not with me he is home by 10pm. It goes back to "family time" and taking an interest in your kids. Just shows that our society thinks it is okay to not be responsible for your own actions. It is always someone else's fault. I am never to blame. NOT ACCEPTABLE!!! Make these kids and their parents clean it up and realize what they did was wrong!
Posted by: UNBELIEVABLE!!! on 2/8/2013
Are you serious?
Bleeding Heart, are you serious or was this an attempt at satire? If you are serious, then this is an example of the kind of liberal thinking that has our entire nation in a complete mess. I can't believe you would put the blame on Menard's. And yes, parents should know where their teenagers are 24-7. Put the responsibility where it belongs - on the kids and their parents. Also, Menard's did not get their "plenty of money" by paying for other people's messes. I know you will never grasp this concept - personal responsibility - but many clear-thinking people will understand what I have said.
Posted by: Kelly on 2/8/2013
Take Responsiblity
@ Bleeding Heart. Are you delusional? If these children broke into your home and vandalized it your telling me, it was solely your fault because you didn't lock the door? As for parents watching their children 24 hours a day, next to impossible if you have a job. But if you raised your kids to be respectful of themselves as well as othe people's properties than behavior like this is rarely an issue. It's attitudes like yours that are the reason our young ones are misguided. They aren't taught personal responsibility.
Posted by: Mom to a teenager on 2/8/2013
Excuses Excuses
Bleeding heart get a clue. How can you blame this on Menards? They shouldn't have to have security to protect their property from vandalizing punks. How can you say it is not the kids fault? Were they not the ones who done it. Kids will continue to do these things as long as there are people out there like you making excuses for them. It is people like you who help create kids that do this. James M just because a parent did something wrong when he was a kid and understands it now and wants to make sure his kid doesn't do the same thing as he or she did doesn't make them a hypocrite. It is parents like you that also contribute to this kind of behavior because you are afraid to punish for something you may have done as a kid. Get a clue. If they do this stuff now and get away with it I can bet you they will do more as a kid and imagine what they will do once they are adults. I say punish them and their parents to the fullest extent of the law. Now adays the Parents don't care what the kids are doing because that would mean they would have to take time away from their drinking, computer, or whatever else they may think is more important then being a parent and being involved in their kids lives.
Posted by: Tired of people making excuses on 2/8/2013
@ BLEEDING HEART
Bleeding heart, you must take good drugs huh? HOW do you figure it wasn't these future jail birds fault and it was Menards?? JUST BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LOCK THE DOORS OR HAVE SECURITY DOES NOT ENTITLE THESE BRATS OR ANYONE ELSE TO GO IN AND DESTROY THE PLACE!! And YES, we ALL expect parents to watch their kids 24-7, it's called BEING A GOOD PARENT.EVIDENTLY you wouldn't know or understand that huh? That'd be like just because YOU leave your door unlocked and no security it's ok for people to come in, urinate and defficate on YOUR stuff, cut up furniture and clothes, and try to burn down YOUR house. STILL think the same now? Don't be a MORON.........it all starts on the home and teaching right from wrong.
Posted by: FED UP on 2/8/2013
How can you all be so cruel Its not the kids fault this happened it is Menards for not having security and you can't expect the parents to watch there kids 24-7. No one got hurt and Menards has plenty of money so just turn them loose and forget about it.
Posted by: Bleeding Heart on 2/8/2013
I hope they pay....
Really? I do remember being a kid and making mistakes but this is far from a little mistake. I never would of thought of doing something so bad to someones property. And being a parent of a son the same age as these boys, I will say that I knew every second where my son was when he was 13 and now being 14 I still know where he is and what he is doing and I am a single parent! My son respects me, respects others and knows my rules! This goes back to the parents, not caring and simply not paying attention. I'm not saying my son is perfect, but this would not even cross his mind as a night of fun! I hope these kids and their parents have to pay Menards for this whole cleanup and repairs, every penny!! Even if it takes years to pay back they ALL need held responsible financially! Maybe then they will pay a little more attention to their kids, and what they are doing and where they are at.
And @ Sigh, you are probably right, the justice system is so screwed up and these kids won't get crap. Yeah it was the butt whooping we were afraid of but that is what is wrong with these kids, no discipline at home!!!!
Posted by: Parent of teenager on 2/7/2013
great
These kids will get a year of probation and ordered to pay restitution (which will never be paid). Menards, if they want their money, will end up suing the parents who will in turn file bankruptcy. That will be the extent of the justice these kids will get. Tar and feathering them publicly will not right the wrong nor will it repair the damages.
It is sad but it is true.
Posted by: local on 2/7/2013
interesting....
isn't it interesting how everyone is so interested in these kids.... now. you could have cared less the hour before. and.... you want to lock them away.... after. interesting. if it were me.... i'd -still- be in jail for some of the stuff i pulled off when i was their age. not saying be lenient. don't be a hypocrite either.
Posted by: james McAllaster on 2/7/2013
We were once kids...
OC, we were all once kids, but when I was a kid we played basketball, football, rode our bikes around the neighborhood and came home when it got dark. We were not sneaking around in the late hours of the night doing criminal damage to public places. These kids need to be punished!!!
Posted by: 2ndAmendment on 2/7/2013
I still say ..
They will all get 6 months probation and a stern finger wagged at them. Back in my day, it wasn't the cops/law we were afraid of, it was the butt whooping we would get when we got home.
Posted by: Sigh on 2/7/2013
Teach them a lesson
These children and their parents should be responsible for the clean up; weather its using their own elbow grease or money. This is much more than just "kids will be kids". I'm glad that the community was able to help GCPD!
Parents it is NOT ok for your children to disrespect others and their belongings.
Posted by: GC Parent on 2/7/2013
Parents to Blame
Again this is an example of parents not teaching and enforcing proper behavior. Why in God's name were 2 13 yo and 1 14 yo hanging around with a 17 yo. I hope the courts hold the parents responsible for the damages.
Posted by: JD on 2/7/2013
Out for blood?
Sounds like some of you are out for blood. I understand they cause A LOT in damages but we are so quick to forget we were once kids and made mistakes. gcCITIZEN you are taking it to the extreme! "Throw away the key" they didn't murder anyone. I think it's a wonderful idea to make them clean up their mess.
Posted by: OC on 2/7/2013
New County Attorney!
Now we can see our new County Attorney in action! Hope she handles this one personally and strikes fear in every kid in Finney County...
Posted by: anonymous personage on 2/7/2013
Sad
I am so sad to hear that KIDS did this!! This was a massive attempt of destruction. When I read this article I was astounded that they did this. We're talking about several hundred of thousands of dollars!! Played with a fork lift? Thank god no one got hurt!!! Where were their parents?? This is a sad day and age when kids reek havoc like this, especially to a new business in town. Garden City needs to set an example out of them!!
Posted by: Megan on 2/7/2013
Make an example out of them....
I agree with gcCitizen, make an example out of them and punish them to the fullest extent. Children these days in this community have absolutely no respect for anything. I see it everyday, rude comments, demeaning behavior, and just generally acting like trash!!! Make an example out of these punks so maybe other kids will think twice!
Posted by: 2ndAmendment on 2/7/2013
It takes a village!
Let them out and let the village take care of them.
Posted by: Sam on 2/7/2013
Thank you
I would like to say thank you to the people who reported these individuals. This type of behavior can not be tolerated.
Posted by: Vicki Germann on 2/7/2013
Answer to all
---->Sigh
What makes you think all they are going to get is a slap on the wrist? Besides if they haven't committed a crime before or its thier first offense I don't think the punishment is going to be too harsh. Believe in the justice system! Its an amazing thing!
------->gcCitizen
Do you have kids? Why don't you throw book AT THEM while you are on that HIGH horse of yours! Like YOU have never committed a crime or done ANYTHING wrong in your life! Remember The Gospel according John 8:7 "He that is without sin - He that is not guilty, either of the same sin, or of some nearly resembling it; let him - as a witness, cast the first stone"
------->Stacy
Good idea Stacy! I would agree with you on this and hope that the kids responsible for this will have to help clean and fix this mistake they made to work it off!
Posted by: Dexter M on 2/7/2013
cost to tax payer!!??
They better do more than "slap" them on the wrist!!! Make them sit in a jail cell with their parents for a few years - - after they clean up the mess with a tooth brush!!! Then they work the rest of their life paying for the damage!!!
Posted by: Mike on 2/6/2013
Menards
And where were the parents while their 13 year old boys were out causing damage. The boys should have to help clean up the mess. They should also have to help their parents make restitution.
Posted by: H. Palacio on 2/6/2013
"extra manpower and extra hours will be required." Here is an idea, put those kids to work cleaning up their mess!!
Posted by: stacy on 2/6/2013
Do Something
Throw the book at them for the love of God!!!!! I am sick and tired of these BRATS getting away with things like this. Enough is enough, make the parents pay twice the amount required to repair all the damage.....just for the sheer fact of getting a point across to these parents that have neglected their children, showered them with material items to make up for the quilt of neglecting them and letting them run around like idiots destroying other peoples property. Lock them up and throw away the key! I am sick of it!!
Posted by: gcCitizen on 2/6/2013
Now as long as the...
prosecution does not just slap them on the wrist. But they will probably just get told to not do it again.
Posted by: Sigh on 2/6/2013